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ThugLifeArmy History of Rap Haters
History of Rap Haters PDF Print E-mail
Written by Westside ID11   
Wednesday, 22 September 2004 20:06

Much more will be up soon


Since there has been rap, there has been those opposed to it.

Not accepted as a true art form by many, it has attracted it’s share of haters and some real fanatics.

One of the biggest ‘haters’ to go against rap music especially gangsta rap; in a very public way was and is C. DeLores Tucker. She has gained the nickname of ‘C Deplorable’.

Her undertaking of her ‘campaign’ against rap and gangsta rap is seen by many as just a way for her to get into the music business.

She at one point wanted to have control over some companies releases.

Many just write her off as a fanatic out for personal gain.

There are many other haters of rap to.

Some of them will be listed here.

One ironic thing is MTV, one of the ‘people involved ‘ with the Tupac Resurrection movie. They have ‘banned’ Chuck D and Public Enemy in the past. And they very seldom play any west coast video’s on their station. You may see a Tupac video once in awhile, but mostly they are considered west coast haters by us on the streets. The Boo Yaa Tribe had a video ‘banned’ recently by them, and as far as any Death Row artist having video’s on there- well that seems to be unheard of. So maybe you can consider MTV a ‘hater’ to, unless there is ‘pay to play’ money involved. But they are not the only one who employs that practice. It seems to be rampant in the industry now, just ask any indi artist.


C. Deloris Tucker

Dear Ms. Deloris Tucker
keep stressen me
fuckin'' with a muthafucken mind
I figured you wanted to know
you know
why we call them hos bitches
and maybe this might help you understand
it ain''t personal
strictly business baby
strictly business....
(From ''Wonda Why They Call You Bitch'' - By Tupac Shakur)


Ms. Tucker and William Bennett successfully raided a board meeting by the leaders of Time-Warner, and used their might to get the company to drop Interscope and Death Row records, two major sources of rap music. Afterward, Tucker bullied Suge Knight, the now former CEO of Death Row Records, into handing the label over to her. Both companies sued Tucker for extortion. During the fight, Tucker threatened Suge Knight, via her attorney, that if Death Row was not turned over to her Suge would spend the rest of his life in jail.

C. Delores Tucker also has sued Tupac Shakur for his "All Eyez On Me" album, which she described as "ruining her sex-life". Tucker then sued Newsweek Magazine for running a story about her lawsuit against Tupac.

This story ran on page B29 of the Boston Globe on 03/10/96.

Gangsta Warfare

By Michael Saunders,

His body is his billboard, proclaiming that Tupac Shakur lives by the creed etched onto his stomach: "Thug life."

His persona as the gangsta rapper 2Pac has ferried the 24-year-old from the streets to stardom, then to jail. Out on $1.4 million bail pending appeal for a sexual-abuse conviction, and awaiting trail next month on a gun charge, he's on top of the charts with a new CD, ``All Eyez on Me,'''' the first ever double CD by a rapper and one of the few rap discs to make its chart debut as the nation's top-selling record.

Both by its success and by its subject matter, ``All Eyez on Me'''' stokes the simmering hostility toward gangsta rap. After several months of relative calm, this long-running battle of morality vs. money is about to flame up again.

On Feb. 21, MCA Records announced a $200 millon deal to buy 50 percent of Interscope Records, which, along with a roster of popular modern rock acts, distributes gangsta rap albums produced by Death Row Records, where Shakur records.

C. DeLores Tucker, chairwoman of the National Political Congress of Black Women, and former education secretary William Bennett lead a loose coalition of civil-rights activists, clergy and conservatives who have pledged to renew their opposition to gangsta rap. They promise an unceasing struggle against, as Tucker says, ``anything that pimps pornography to our children'''' - possibly to the point of urging shareholders to sell their stock in any companies that profit from sales of gangsta rap. The giant Canada-based Seagram Co. owns 80 percent of MCA and provides gangsta rap foes with a new, highly visible target.

``We have discussed programs to begin divestment action against Seagram, as we did against Time Warner, if they profit in any way from this music,'''' Tucker said last week during a lengthy phone conversation. ``The position of the National Political Congress of Black Women has always been that anyone who promotes and distributes music that defames women, that is pornographic, obscene and misogynist, will be the target of our challenge and our protests. We are determined to pursue whatever legal means necessary to stop it.''''

``Gangsta rap'''' songs are street tales told in ragged, unblushing rhymes, where life is often a race to ``get paid'''' and get laid before a bullet stops the party. Women are usually absent from this million-record-selling landscape of guns and money, except in their roles as gold-digging ``bitches'''' and sex-dispensing ``hos.'''' This world is distinguished by its colors, the ones that identify friend or foe, and those cordoned behind yellow crime-scene tape: brown bodies with congealed blood a lifeless maroon, and the red-rimmed eyes of a new statistic's mother.MCA controls

Considering the heavy doses of graphic sexual content, violent imagery and uncompromising misogyny, it's easy to see why gangsta rap has attracted high-profile enemies determined to curb it, then kill it. But MCA has reserved the right not to distribute any material its executives find objectionable. A high-ranking Seagrams spokesperson said last week that some within the company are ``frustrated'''' over what they see as Tucker's saber-rattling. ``We would have to be totally insane to do this without knowing exactly what we were getting into,'''' said the spokesperson. ``We have said publicly that we will be judged by the material that we would be distributing. Why would we have gone out with such a strong definitive statement to that effect if we were not prepared to honor that commitment? ... We''re really trying to do this the right way.'''' If there is a hit list of companies and performers marked for condemnation, it's likely the first name on it would be Death Row Records. This four-year-old firm, whose logo features a hooded inmate strapped to an electric chair, claims gross receipts of $125 million. Most of that wealth is derived from sales of the wildly popular West Coast gangsta rap style. It's a genre that borrows heavily from funk and soul riffs recorded 20 or more years ago, electronically pasted into a collage of new and old sounds. There's a continuum from jump blues to James Brown to George Clinton of Parliament-Funkadelic to Dr. Dre (``The Chronic,'''' nearly 4 million copies sold), Snoop Doggy Dogg (``Doggystyle,'''' nearly 5 million copies sold), and Tha Dogg Pound (``Dogg Food,'''' about 2 million copies sold). Add to that Tupac Shakur's new ``All Eyez on Me'''' and various other products and performers, and you get Death Row's claimed sales figures of 18 million pieces - and counting.

It is one of the most profitable independent record companies to emerge in the past 10 years, and certainly one of the strongest distributed by Interscope. But just six months ago, Interscope looked like an industry pariah, made untouchable by its distribution deal with Death Row. Tucker and Bennett, skillfully employing a combination of public protests and behind-the-scenes arm-twisting, persuaded a congressional subcommittee to hold hearings on gangsta rap and offensive rock ''n'' roll.

Tucker's group breached the corporate wall at Time Warner, which had half ownership of Interscope, by buying Time Warner stock and speaking out at a stockholders'' meeting. They amplified their words with those taken directly from some of the songs released by companies controlled by Time Warner. Less noticably, Tucker and Bennett used their network of high-placed corporate friends to circulate talk of a stock-divestment effort.

Wisely, Tucker and Bennett also controlled how the issue was defined to the public. As Tucker said, gangsta rappers are ``black role models for children who are most susceptible, who need guidance, who in many cases don''t have a father. The role models that they see in the streets are the drug pushers and the Snoop Doggy Doggs and the Tupac Shakurs telling them to use drugs. These are messages that our children are practicing.''''White and black hats

In their congressional testimony and their carefully worded protests, they were careful to avoid incurring the wrath of First Amendment absolutists, making it even easier for people to imagine each side in easily identifiable white and black hats. As a result, most mainstream media have portrayed the contestants as caricatures: the crusaders for decency battling the nefarious underminers of society. With the sides drawn so distinctly, it was a simple choice for consensus-seeking politicians - such as presidential candidate Bob Dole - to flock to the cause. It seemed an equally easy choice for Time Warner five months ago to sell its interest in Interscope back to the company's founders, Jimmy Iovine and Ted Field.

This certainly looked like a solid win for the good guys, but as the Seagram's spokesperson noted, Time Warner still makes money from Death Row Records in the form of publishing rights to songs that are still selling. ``Just because they sold Interscope doesn''t mean that they stopped all the other deals behind the scenes.'''' Also, the public pillorying of Time Warner obscured the fact that the company's distribution arm, WEA, was not alone in handling gangsta rap. As Iovine told Billboard magazine after the sale to MCA, ``Every music distributor put out rap music. ... They all distribute different versions of controversial rap music and [Tucker] realizes it.'''' Considering that, industry analysts are waiting to see if MCA's resolve not to distribute offensive records remains strong when Death Row releases several potential million-sellers later this year. Dr. Dre has a new album in the works, as does Snoop Doggy Dogg, who said in a recent MTV interview that he plans a July 4th release. He and other Death Row performers are likely to appear on a compilation disc destined to fuel more controversy.

Regardless of MCA's stance, Tucker says she's ready to fight. ``We have to stop these messages. What has really injured my passion more than anything else are the figures coming out now of the cities, of the numbers of black males under justice-system jurisdiction. This is something that should alarm any decent human being.''''The statistics

A recent study revealed that 39 percent of young black males in California are under the jurisdiction of the criminal justice system, either in jail, on parole or on probation.

Or at Death Row Records, where the roster's cumulative rap sheet seems to bear witness to those numbers. Snoop Doggy Dogg, aka Calvin Broadus, was acquitted of a murder charge several weeks ago. Death Row president Dr. Dre (Andre Young), 30, has served time for assault. Tupac Shakur, 24, served eight months of a 1-to4-year sentence for first-degree sexual abuse of a female fan. He was released Oct. 12, 1995, after a team of lawyers petitioned a New York judge to cut his bail from $3 million to $1.4 million. Shakur's bond was secured by Death Row CEO Marion ``Suge'''' Knight, 30, a 6-foot-4 inch, 315-pound former college defensive lineman who has been accused of physically intimidating competitors. Shakur remains free while his lawyers (including Harvard Law School professor Charles Ogletree) appeal his sexual assault conviction. He also faces a possible three-year jail term if convicted on a 1994 charge of carrying a concealed weapon, his second such offense. Last Monday, a Los Angeles judge set an April 15 trial date for Shakur and his half-brother, Maurice Harding.

Neither Knight or Shakur was available to comment, but a spokesman suggested that the company's official position can be found in this lawyerly statement: ``Much of Death Row Records'' music chronicles the observations and experiences of young African-Americans, often describing experiences and observations arising from the urban ghettos of this country. These observations and experiences represent a part of life in America that is non-mainstream and that the government, prior to the popularity of rap, was able to control, limit and keep from the middle class. The current appeal of this music to suburban America has caused great concern to the government, politicians and others looking to benefit from and capitalize on these events.''''

It may sound like corporate boilerplate, but this statement is an accurate assessment of both gangsta rap and of its foes. If not for the legitimate business of making music, many self-proclaimed gangstas have said they would be on the streets living out the deeds celebrated in song. Instead, Knight and his cohorts are making money and creating jobs. On the other side, Republican presidential candidate Dole and a congressional amen corner of conservatives have seized upon the issue. And both Bennett and Tucker have been accused of using the controversy for their own political gain, which Tucker vehemently denies. ``All my life I have fought for the dignity and decency of my people and all people. I have joined in every struggle,'''' Tucker said, describing the walls of her office, adorned with pictures of Rosa Parks and photos of Tucker marching arm in arm with Martin Luther King, Jr. and Coretta Scott King. ``This is a continuing thing with me all of life, even when I first suffered discrimination. I would not have my dignity demeaned,'''' she continued, her tone darkening like an approaching storm. ``And here they are, promoting and distributing, all around the world, images of our black males. Negative, stereotypical images calling their mothers, grandmothers, all the women in their community whores, bitches and sluts. That's offensive and we shall not take it!''''

If gangsta rap dies, it will likely be from an acute lack of creativity, with audiences tuning out the repetitive hyper-violence and now-blase sexual imagery. More fans may turn to the East Coast style, of higher-IQ lyrical flows from groups such as Genius-GZA, or Ol'' Dirty Bastard. It's possible that Death Row's next few releases might be creative duds like last fall's ``Dogg Food'''' disc. It was hyped by the label as the most controversial rap album ever, but reviled by critics as a pathetic indictment at how limited gangsta rap had become.

Still, as the Seagram's spokesperson said of where things stand: ``The irony of this is that it only fuels sales. I don''t blame people for being cynical. It is just a little depressing.''''

C ''Deplorable'' vs Tupac and Suge Knight

As Tucker explained to Chicago Tribune writer Monica Fountain, "these images of black young kids acting like gangstas go all around the world." She objected to such lyrics being sold to minors and asked the Federal Bureau of Investigation to launch an inquiry. Both the NAACP and the Congressional Black Caucus lent support to Tucker's cause. Congressional hearings were held on the subject in 1994, and soon afterward Tucker set her sights on an even larger target, the Time Warner media empire. The company distributed Interscope, whose rap subsidiary, Death Row Records, put out the recordings of some of the most popular gangsta artists. Tucker purchased stock in Time Warner, which allowed her the privilege of attending shareholders'' meetings and speaking out. At a May 1995 shareholders'' meeting, she stood and asked the executives to read aloud the very lyrics through which their company reaped such profits. They refused. "How long will Time Warner continue to put profit before principle?" she asked at the meeting, according to Fountain's Chicago Tribune article. "How long will it continue to turn its back on the thousands of young people who are dying spiritually and physically due to the violence perpetuated in these recordings?"

Tucker also focused her ire at Time Warner chair Gerald Levin. "I told him about the black males--25 percent are either in jail or under some judicial regulation," she declared in another Chicago Tribune profile by Sonya Ross. "I said, ''Mr. Levin, how are we going to raise a race of people with no men?''" Tucker has also noted that she has served as surrogate parent to many nieces and nephews, not all of whom went down the right path, and over the years came to realize that cultural forces and images play a large role in shaping self-esteem. Not long after the incident, Time Warner sold its interest in Interscope. Tucker considered it a victory, but Death Row head Marion "Suge" Knight hired investigators and then filed suit against Tucker on behalf of his roster of artists. She was accused of conspiracy and extortion as a result of a meeting with Knight at which two recording artists (who were also National Political Caucus of Black Women members), Melba Moore and Dionne Warwick, were also present. Supposedly the women offered Knight a deal to leave Interscope and sign with a black-owned record company they planned, but Tucker retorted that they had simply asked him to try for more positive messages in his artists'' music. He said he would need "distribution" to engineer such a situation, and Moore and Knight agreed then to look into financing for such a possible black-owned enterprise.

Some believed that Knight and the gangsta-rap camp had set Tucker up. A smear campaign had indeed been launched against her, which brought up her 1977 Pennsylvania dismissal as well as the fact that in the 1960s the properties her mother had owned and passed on to Tucker and her husband had deteriorated to substandard conditions. (Tucker recounted in a Los Angeles Times interview with Chuck Philips that back then, she and her husband had "rented to displaced women on welfare with six or seven children who couldn''t get housing anywhere else. We tried to help them, but the tenants never paid their rent.... It got to the point where they had to all be boarded up.")

Still, Tucker refused to back down in her campaign to stop the potentially harmful messages espoused by gangsta rap. "It's important to pay attention to who is dredging up all these charges," Tucker told Philips in the Los Angeles Times. "Remember, these are the same people who are out there pimping pornography to your children. Their record and records speak for them." She called for a boycott of a large record chain, and others rallied in support; singer Anita Baker gave a $10,000 check toward her defense fund. Tucker, a lifelong Democrat, also earned support from unlikely corners--former U.S. Secretary of Education William Bennett became an ally. The two often appear at the same speaking engagements against rap lyrics. "She's a daunting figure," Bennett told Weintraub of the Washington Post. "Usually I''m the noisy one, but she's ferocious." In 1997, Tucker's campaign against rap led her to (unsuccessfully) sue the estate of the rapper Tupac Shakur, who had made derogatory remarks about her in some of his songs.

In September 2000, Tucker appeared on CNN's Crossfires Chat. In response to a question from an audience member about rap and artistic freedom, Tucker was careful to acknowledge that while artists do have a right to create works of art, "they don''t have a right to stereotypically record music or do anything objectionable to any group." She went on to say, "This music has been proven injurious by psychiatric studies, so there's nothing that can be done but ask the industry to regulate itself. If not, like with cigarettes, we''ll have to have government regulation. American people say they feel they''re fighting the culture to save their children."

In 2001, speaking for the Parents Television Council, Tucker publicly deplored the "levels to which the entertainment industry has gone to market its adult-oriented material to children and teenagers," and urged TV sponsors to fund instead family oriented programming. "Just as violent and vulgar programming--the kind that pollutes young minds and encourages them to engage in dangerous and risky behavior--is funded by advertising dollars, so too is wholesome, uplifting, family-oriented programming," she noted.

Tucker, who turned seventy in 1997, is founder and leader of the Bethune-DuBois Fund, which raises and distributes money for voter-registration drives in African American communities and lends political support to its candidates. She is also the convening founder and national chair of the National Political Congress of Black Women. She was also influential in the reform movement within the NAACP. As a national executive board member, Tucker spoke out against the financial misdeeds of President William Gibson in 1994, and organized a "Save Our Ship" committee; the board eventually ousted Gibson and advanced Tucker's friend, civil-rights activist Myrlie Evers-Williams (widow of slain 1960s activist Medgar Evers), to the presidency. In her lifetime, Tucker has received over 300 honors, is publisher of Vital Issues: The Journal of African American Speeches, and has served as a vice-president of the Philadelphia Tribune since 1989. In the interview with Weintraub of the Washington Post, Tucker did admit to wondering who might fill her shoes: "I wish other people could do what I''m doing so I could step back and retire."


Public Enemy's Latest Video Banned
(LAUNCH, 09/17/2002 12:00 PM)

By Mark Armstrong

(9/17/02, 12 p.m. ET) - Public Enemy and MTV were unable to workout a compromise so that the group's latest video--for the song "Give The People What They Need," from the group's new Revolverlution album--could air on the network, according to the group's frontman Chuck D.

At the center of the controversy were the references made in the song and video to Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was found guilty of killing police officer Daniel Faulkner in 1981. Jamal was sentenced to death, but Judge William Yohn set aside the sentence last year. Both parties have appealed Yohn's decisions and the case is currently in the U.S. Court Of Appeals. If Yohn's decision is upheld, Jamal will serve the rest of his life in prison.

MTV requested that Public Enemy remove the word "free" before Mumia Abu-Jamal, but the group refused the request. Chuck D explained the group's stance to DaveyD.com, "Really it ain''t about playing the Public Enemy video. So be it. I do art and songs to provoke and not be a joke. It would''ve been simple as hell for them to rather say they didn''t like the video. But as a black man, it's the nerve of them judging what's acceptable coming out of blackface. If they think having a political viewpoint in music is irrelevant, it's because they''ve taken the Nazi approach in censoring it themselves...I refuse to edit out the Mumia audio and visual, that's crazy and they must be out of their f--king mind."

Calls to MTV for comment were not returned by press time.



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